Internode prices prove NBN failure

Internode will only offer so-called 'bundled' plans which come with a telephone connection and prices starting at $59.95 a month and ranging up to $189.95. It is difficult to directly compare Internode's current ADSL broadband plans with the NBN fibre-based plans, due to the different speed tiers which are offered. After all, at the 25Mbps tier, which offers similar speeds to the equivalent ADSL plans, the prices are relatively comparable.

However, in a statement published yesterday on his site, Turnbull stated Internode’s pricing revelation had undercut the argument for the NBN and the credibility of Communications Minister Stephen Conroy.

The NBN business model will prove costly to taxpayers

“These serious gaps in the NBN business model will prove costly to taxpayers and more importantly, to internet users who may not be able to afford the hikes,” the Liberal MP said. “As I have said repeatedly, the main barrier to the internet is not distance nevertheless cost. The biggest disparity between those who access the internet and those who don't is their level of income.”

Who cares, so the NBN goes massively over budget because of revenue shortfalls because they stuffed up the wholesale models and have to adjust it downwards to placate ISP’s, the sucker taxpayer is footing the bill, the pit is bottomless.

Conroy said a lot more than the lame 2 pars at the arse-end of this story that directly addressed pricing — like this was within the band calculated and that many people were not comparing apples-to-apples because they often left out line rental charges out of the equation and adding those in brought things back to the pricing band that they anticipated. As well, this is the first vendor to provide pricing and others will come in high and other will come in lower.

“like this was within the band calculated and that many people were not comparing apples-to-apples because they often left out line rental charges out of the equation and adding those in brought things back to the pricing band that they anticipated.”

“The telephone service which will be bundled with the plans is Internode's NodePhone internet telephony offering and $10 monthly call credit, even though the company has as well noted that NBN Co is planning to as well offer what Internode described as "a conventional analogue fixed line voice service", which will be available later in 2011 through Internode.”

Yes I was waiting for someone to bring up that ‘killer deal’ available on Internode NBN plans, how does that work NK can you plug your existing PSTN phone into the phone port of the ONT?

For those that don’t use fixed line voice at all getting $10 worth of calls is irrelevant, at $59.95 for the cheapest plan it is nevertheless more expensive than unbundled ADSL, it is not as if you can say to Internode can I have it for $49.95 because I will never use the $10 worth of VoIP (Voice over Internet Protocol).

Yes I was waiting for someone to bring up that 'killer deal' available on Internode NBN plans, how does that work NK can you plug your existing PSTN phone into the phone port of the ONT?

Killer deal

It’s not a killer deal. You said voice pricing Isn’t included, however it is, via NodePhone. I don’t know if it works by plugging into one of the voice ports or not. Ask Internode.

For those that don't use fixed line voice at all getting $10 worth of calls is irrelevant, at $59.95 for the cheapest plan it is all in all more expensive than unbundled ADSL, it is not as if you can say to Internode can I have it for $49.95 because I will never use the $10 worth of VoIP.

Ignoring the fact those $30 ADSL2+ plans need phone rental so you’re trying to make the price difference worse than it is, my point was, tough, at times the world moves on and you need to move with it.

I mean unbundled pricing from the ISP, the ISP’s have both, the bundled price on the same plan level as a general rule gives you more quota a discounted BB price or both.

The fact you’re misrepresenting the price difference

Doesn’t change the fact you’re misrepresenting the price difference. You on the whole have to get a phone line rental, which you don’t need for the NBN do you?

i personally feel that first release pricing – and from one isp – is indicative only. its a new market and there will be some tweaking as it sets up, nevertheless you dont make sales if youve pitched too high and dont adjust when its clear youve done that – you dont keep a business driving off clients. yet having only one set of figures on the board its too early to say if thats the case here.

How about comparing like with like

How about comparing like with like.Naked DSL.ATM I’m force to pay an extra $25/month on top of any ADSL plan.This both at home where the phone isn’t plugged in, and at my place of work where we have a digital PABX and again don’t even need the lines. The get the sort of upload bandwidth I can get from the mid point NBN plans I’ve gotten quotes from $1400/month – $14,000/month which I would imagine is outside the bounds of most SMEs. This is less than 2km from the city center of a capital city, and I have dark fibre(not NBN) running from the building to the city exchange already.